President Donald Trump, and his divisive tone, bears some responsibility for stoking the political divide amid the mailing of pipe bombs to prominent Democrats, Ohio Gov. John Kasich says.

Kasich made his remarks while appearing Wednesday evening on “The 11th Hour” with Brian Williams on MSNBC.

Williams asked Kasich, a Trump critic who unsuccessfully challenged him during the Republican presidential primaries, “Does the president bear some responsibility — obviously not for the bomb making or the recipients — but does he bear responsibility for the tone that allowed it?”

Kasich responded, “Sure, sure he does. It’s part of the reason why I never endorsed him and I’ve never been personally critical of him. But yeah, he does bear responsibility for the divisions.

“He has the biggest megaphones. But I think, Brian, you and I have been observers and participants in this business for a long time. When we see Hillary Clinton say, and I said this not long ago in the media, that when she said “When they go low we need to go low” or Eric Holder, when you go low we need to go low, everybody needs to knock it off. But obviously the guy with the biggest megaphone is the one that really has to be careful.”

The lame-duck governor later added, “We don’t need to savage ourselves. We’re not in a zero-sum game where I win and you lose and I then have to devastate you because you’re my opponent or call you a bad person. We can have a great lively political discussion, political debate, and we don’t have to separate and polarize in anger. It leads to crazy things.”

Kasich said the mailing of the pipe bombs: “When you get this frenzy going in this country ... someone who lives on the edge does something stupid.”